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God's Call to Come Up Higher by David Nelson
더 높이 올라오라는 하나님의 부름, 데이빗 넬슨
Posted: 2007-07-31 17:25:36
God’s Call to Come Up Higher by David Nelson 8-21-07
더 높이 올라오라는 하나님의 부름 by 데이빗 넬슨 2007-8-21
(Articles by other authors to follow : 다른 저자들의 항목은 뒤 따른름)
I had a dream about a year ago that was very strong and I thought about it for weeks as being from the Lord. But it was so “different” that I did not even share it with my wife, thinking it probably was just for me (between me and the Lord). Then about 3 weeks ago a lady named Hollie Moody wrote about a prophetic vision she had that was very much the same as my dream. So I thought, maybe this is for everyone?
나는 약 일년전에 아주 강열한 꿈 하나를 꾸었습니다 나는 그것을 두고 몇 주 동안 생각했습니다,, 주님에게서 온 것이므로. 하지만 그건,, 내가 내 아내와도 나누지 않을만큼 아주 "달랐습니다", 생각에 그것은 아마도 단순히 나만(나와 주님사이의)을 위한것으로 생각되어서. 그런데 약 3 주 전 정도에 홀리 무디(Hollie Moody)란 이름의 한 숙녀분이 그녀가 가졌던 어떤 예언적 환상,, 내 꿈과 아주 많이 동일한 류의,, 것을 쓰 올렸더랬습니다.
In the last few days two writings have come to my attention from Rick Joyner and a man named Mitt Jeffords. So, what I am about to write comes from all of these sources above plus a man of God from
지난 몇 일 사이 두개의 쓴 글이 내 시선을 붙들었었는데,, 릭 조이너와 미트 제포즈란 이름의 남자가 쓴 것이었습니다. 그래서, 내가 쓸 참인 것은 이러한 출저들에서 비롯된 것으로 더하여 왕밍다오(Wang Ming Dao)라는 이름의 중국출신의 하나님이 사람의 것도 더합니다.
(나는 인용한 것들과 항목은 이 쓰기 끝에 포함하여 묶어서 올릴 것입니다).
First, let me share the dream I had a year ago. I will try and paint the picture I saw and how I felt. There was a very tall pole, like the kind a diver would dive from at a circus into a small pool of water. The pole in my dream had no pool of water at the bottom and instead of a platform for diving at the top it had a seat to sit in. This pole was very high (looked kind of scary to climb), and it looked kind of rusty and old (like it had been around for a long time, maybe past generations had climbed it and used it), and once you were seated at the top there was a small platform under you so that no one could see you (yet I could see people walking below me). I was so high up, and I had some fear of falling, though the Lord assured me that I was safe, strapped in, even if I should fall asleep, I was OK, and that I was free to leave whenever I wanted. I also noticed that there were other poles spaced far enough apart to be secluded available for other people who chose to climb their own pole. Now I was at the bottom of the pole again and the Lord said, “Do you want to be alone with Me, to know Me and what I am thinking? It is a place of total one-sightedness, seeing and being with Me, total dedication to knowing Me. It is a place where I have you and you have Me, but it is for you to choose to go there and stay there as you choose. Also, this is a place where I will show you people and how you can help them.”
먼저, 내가 일년 전에 꾸었던 그 꿈을 나누지요. 나는 내가 보았것과 느꼈던 것을 노력해 기술해 볼 것입니다. 한 아주 높이 세워진 길다란 장대가 있었는데,, 다소간 다이빙을 하는, 한 작은 놀이공원의 수중 서커스 풀장에서 있을법한, 그 곳에서 한 다이버(다이빙하는) 남자가 다이빙을 하는 곳 인듯 했습니다. 내 꿈속의 그 장대는 전혀 아래쪽에 물이 있는 풀(수영)장이 없었고, 대신,, 그 장대 그 꼭대기에, 발 디딤판(선반) 대신 안쪽으로 들어앉는 좌석이 있었습니다. 이 장대는 아주 높아서(내가 보기에 다소간 기어 오르기가 무서웠습니다), 그리고 그것은 녹이 슬어서 오래된 것으로 보였습니다(상당히 오랜 시간이 지난듯한, 아마도 지난 세대사람들이 그것을 기어 오르며 사용했었던 거와 같은), 일딴 당신이 그 꼭대기(자리)에 앉혀지면,,당신 아래엔 작은 바닥(small platform:연단)이 있어 그래서 아무도 당신을 볼 수가 없었습니다(그렇지만 나는 사람들이 내 아래쪽에서 걸어 다니는 것을 볼수 있었습니다). 나는 너무 높이 있었서, 떨어질까봐 좀 두려웠습니다, 그렇지만 주님께서 내게 내가 안전하게,, 안쪽에서 묶여 있어, 내가 잠에 빠져 들지라도,난 괜찮고,, 그리고 내가 원할때면,, 언제든지,, 남기고 떠날수 있다 보장해 주었음에도. 나는 또 알게 되었습니다,, 다른 장대들이 아주 멀찍히 간격을 둔채 격리된채 서 있는것을,, 그들 장대에 오르기로 선택한 자들이 다가가 오를 수 있도록. 이제 다시 나는 그 장대 아래쪽에 있었고 주님이 말했습니다, " 너 나와만 함께 있고싶니, 나를 알고 내가 생각하는것을 알기 위해 ? 그건 전적으로 하나만 보이는 자리야 , 나를 보며 나와 함께 있는, 나를 알도록 전적으로 내어진. 그 곳은 내가 너를 가지는 장소고,, 너가 나를 가지는 장소야, 하지만 그기로 가서 그기 머물기로 선택하는 것은 너야, 너가 선택하므로서. 또한 이 곳은 내가 너에게 사람들을 보여주는 장소야,, 너가 그들을 도울수 있는 방법은 보이는 곳."
I have thought about that place where I could live close to the Lord and yet continue in my daily work, chores and relationships with the people I rub shoulders with every day. I have wanted to live in that place and go there again and again, and stay as long as I could. I have wanted to go there in my spirit and have this as my mindset, this is where I really want to live. But it is kind of scary to get there and kind of scary to stay there unless I could learn or the Lord could teach me to be comfortable there.
나는 그 곳을 생각했습니다,, 내가 주님과 가까이 살수 있고, 그렇지만 나의 매일의 일, 가사일들 그리고 내가 매일 부딪쳐 만다는 그 사람들과 관계를 계속하는 곳으로. 나는 그 곳에 살기를, 그리고 그리로 반복해서 가길, 그리고 내가 할 수 있는 한 오래 머물길 원했습니다. 나는 내 영안에서 그리로 가길 그리고 이런것을 내 마음의 자세로 가지길 원했습니다, 이 곳은 내가 실제 살기 원하는 곳입니다. 하지만 그리고 가기는 어쩐지 좀 으시시(scary:두려웠고)하고, 어쩐지 그기 머무는 것은 좀 으시시 합니다,, 내가 배워서 알수 있지 않는 한, 혹은 주님이 내게 그기가 안락하단 것을 내게 가르칠수 없으면.
Here is where the butterfly and cocoon idea comes in (from Rick Joyner) and the vision by Mitt Jeffords (The Steel Mill), and the revelation by the man from
여기서였습니다,, 나비와 고치(릭조이너가 쓴) 생각이,, 그리고 미트 제포즈의(그 제강(련)소 환상)과, 그리고 중국 출신의 한 사람(남성), 왕밍다오(Wang Ming Dao)가 올린 그 계시가 떠 오른것이. 위쪽의 그 장대위 끝의 그 좌석(자리)안에 그 고치가 있습니다,, 우리가 스스로를 속에서 둘러싸지 않음 안되는. 우리는 벌레들 혹은 애벌레들입니다,, 땅바닥 위를 기는 그리고 우리는 어느 시점에 결정해야 합니다,, 우리 자신들을 주님으로 둘러싸도록 그기서 다른 아무것도 관심거리가 되지 않는,, 그 분이 우리로 되도록 바라는 것 외엔. 모든것들이 차단되지 않음 안됩니다 (우리가 우리이 일상활동들의 많은것을 계속할찌라도). 주님이 보이십니다,, 어떤것이 떨어져 나가야 하는지를, 모든 혼을 얽어매는것은 잘려져 나가야 합니다, 어떤 줄(끈으)로 연결된 것도, 다른 무엇보다도 우리가 원하는 것은 하나, 심지어 사역하는것도 아니고, 오직 주님 그 분. 일딴 그분이 우리로 그분 홀로만으로 둘러싸이도록 허락하면, 그분이 그 과정,, 그 상실되 버린 아름다운, 색상의 나비를 창조해 내는 것으로 연결되는,, 완전히 그 전(이전)과는 달리 보이는, 날개를 가지고서 이 세상 위쪽으로 높이 날아오르는,, 그 과정을 속에서 계속할 것입니다. 나비들은 상당부분 알기가 어렵습니다, 거의 다른것들 눈에 띄지가 않아 색상이 온전히 드러나는 과정이. 우리는 오직 그것들을 잠시 얼마간 볼 수 있을 뿐, 그들의 전체 아름다움이나 색상들을 볼수가 없습니다,, 그것들이 감금되어,, 그들 날개가 돋아 나오는 것을 모든이가 보기는.(아마도 사실들이 천국에선 더 잘 보일 것입니다,,우리가 우리의 경주 여정을 끝낸후엔).
The process that is going on in the cocoon as the Lord is forming our wings and painting the colors in minute detail is explained to some extent in Mitt Jeffords vision (The Steel Mill). How can we change ourselves? Maybe we have tried so hard and we seem to fall short again and again. Yes, we should want to cooperate with the Lord in this process of becoming Holy as He is Holy and becoming righteous and pure in character as He is. Mitt Jeffords shares that the Lord wants every detail of our lives to be put into His hands. Our cooperation is to humbly give up each area of our lives as He shows us and corrects us, and keep giving up each thing to Him till He completes the work in us. How can we change, how can we obey even His slightest promptings? He is the author and finisher of the work He is doing if we will be in the cocoon and if we will offer up every detail for Him to finish His work. He wants to change some big flaws in us that we may or may not see, and we seem to have little or no power to change. There may be small flaws we do not see that He wants to change also. Lord, please point these things out to us and give us a stronger and stronger desire to change into what You want. “I am at work in you both to desire and to do my good pleasure.” (Phil. 2:13) Please do this verse in me Lord, please help me to long for this with my whole heart.
그 고치 안쪽에서 진행되는 주님이 우리의 날개들과 세밀하게 그 색상들을 입히는 과정은 상당부분 미트 제포즈의 (그 제강소 환상)속에서 설명됩니다. 어떻게 우리가 우리 자신을 바꿔놓을 수 있습니까 ? 아마도 우리는 아주 열심히 노력해 봤는데,, 우리는 반복해서 충분히 미치지 못한 듯 보입니다. 그렇습니다, 우리는 당연히 주님과 협력하길 원합니다,, 주님이 거룩한 것처럼 거룩하게 되는데서, 그분이 그런 것 처럼 성질적으로 의롭고, 순수하게 되는 그 과정에서. 미트 제포즈는 주님이 우리 삶의 아주 세세한 부분이 그분 손안에 두길 원한다는 것을 알려줍니다. 우리의 협력함은 낮은 마음이 되어 그분께서 우리에게 보이시며, 우리를 교정하기 원하실때 우리 삶의 각 부분들을 완전히 드리는 것입니다 그리고 계속해서 그분이 우리속에서의 그 일을 끝내기 까지 그분께 각각의 것을 완전히 드리는 것입니다. 어떻게 우리가 그분의 가장 미미한 고무함이라도 바꿀 수 있으며,, 그것들에 순종할 수 있습니까 ? 그분은 그분이 하고 계신 그 일의 시작하신 분이시요 끝내는 분이십니다 만약 우리가 그 고치 안에 있으려 할 것이라면 그리고 우리가 그분이 그분 일을 끝낼수 있도록 받쳐 드릴 것이라면. 그분은 우리 안쪽의 몇몇 큰 결함들,,우리가 볼 수도, 혹은 보지 못할수도 있는,, 그런것들을 바꿔놓기 원합니다, 그리고 우리는 거의 조금도, 아님 전혀 바꿔 놓을 힘이 없어 보입니다. 우리가 보지는 못하지만 그분이 또한 바꿔놓기 원하는 작은 결함들이 있을 수 있습니다. 주님, 부탁컨데 이러한 것들을 우리에게 지적하소서,,그리고 우리에게 점점 더 강한 욕구, 당신이 원하는 것으로 바뀌고픈,, 욕구를 주소서. " 내가 너희안에서 작업(일)하고 있다,, 나의 선한 기뻐하는것을 원하여 행하도록." (빌리보서.2:13)
Each one of us may have visions in our own hearts and dreams we dream for ourselves, and one day we hope what He has put into our hearts will come to pass and will be exactly the same as the visions and dreams He has always had for us. And just like it took time and some pain and confinement for Joseph (in the Bible) to reach the fulfillment of his dreams, but because they were given by God they did surely come to pass. It is the same with each of us. Will we go up to a place where we are the Lord’s completely and He is our goal and desire alone (the seat on the high pole)? Will we know that we must wrap ourselves up with the Lord in a cocoon to be wanting and available for the changes and the beauty He wants for us? (Actually He is calling to each one even now and has been, to come, come to that place). What wonderful things He has planned for each of us.
우리 각자는 우리 자신 마음속에 우리 자신을 위해 바라는 이상(환상)들과 꿈꾸는 꿈들이 있을 수 있습니다, 그리고 언젠가 우리는 그분이 우리 마음속으로 두셨던 것이 일어나서, 정확히 그분이 언제나 우리를 향해 가지셨던 그 이상(환상)들과 꿈들과 동일한 종류의 것이 되길 바랍니다. 그리고 그 일이 (성경속의) 요셉에게 그 꿈의 성취가 이뤄지는데 시간이 걸리고 얼마간의 고통과 감금이 있었던 것 처럼, 하지만 그것들은 하나님이 주셨기 때문에, 그것들은 확실히 일어났습니다. 그것은 우리각자에게도 동일합니다. 우리가 전적으로 주님의 것이 되는 한 장소까지 올라가므로 그분 홀로 우리의 목적, 욕구(그 높은 장대위쪽의 자리)가 될것입니까 ? 우리가 우리자신을 고치안처럼 주님으로 둘러싸서,, 그런 변화(바뀜)와 아름다움,, 주님이 우릴 향해 원하시는,, 그런것을 원하므로 획득하기까지 알것입니까 ? (실제 그분이 각자에게 바로 지금도 부르고 계시고,, 과거에도 불러왔습니다,, 그곳으로 오고 오라고). 그분이 우리 각자를 위해 계획한 것들은 얼마나 놀라운 것들인지.
DAY Of The WATCHMEN - RETURN Of The NEPHILIM
-by Hollie L Moody. -(I5 Jan 2006)
Luke 17:26— “And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be
also in the days of the Son of man.”
In a vision, I was standing in a group of people. We were laughing and talking together. I sensed that the Lord was standing next to me. “Child,” I heard the Lord say to, me, “what are you doing here?”
I was surprised by the Lord’s question. “I am visiting with my
friends,” I replied.
“This is not what I have called you unto,” the Lord said to me.
“Why are you not up in the tower where I have called you to be?”
I saw that the Lord had turned from the group of people, and was pointing upwards. I looked up to where the Lord was pointing, and saw a very high tower.
“Because it’s lonely in the tower,” I said to the Lord.
“Return to where I have stationed you,” the Lord commanded me.
I slowly began to climb my way back up into the high tower. When
I arrived back into the tower, I saw that the entire tower was open
on all sides and that I was able to look out easily into all directions.
I looked down and saw that the Lord was walking in and out of the crowds of people spread out below me. At intervals, He would stop and speak quietly to certain people. These people would then also separate themselves from the crowds and make their way to where the Lord would point for them to be.
I saw that some of the people were positioned on rooftops, Some
were positioned on walls that ran around the perimeter of the city. Others were in groups of twos and were walking around the city together. Still others were also up in high lowers such as the one I was in.
I then sensed the Lord’s return next to me.
“Why am I here. Lord?” I asked
“To keep watch,” the Lord replied.
So. I watched. For quite some time, I continued to watch. Yet, I saw nothing.
I noticed that the Lord was going from watchman to watchman, speaking to them. I saw that some of them had fallen asleep on their watch, and that the Lord appeared quite displeased by this.
(Isaiah 56:10, “His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.”
Suddenly, I saw something bright falling from the heavens.(The rest of this vision is available upon request).
August 13, 2007
Rick Joyner:
"THE GREAT METAMORPHOSIS--BEING TRANSFORMED AS WE SOAR ABOVE OUR TRIALS"
"There is no greater freedom than knowing we are in the will of God."
The Church is the Lord's Body, and what He does, He will do through His Church. If we want to be a part of what God is doing, it is fundamental that we find our part in His body and begin functioning in it.
We must also acknowledge that there are many ways in which the contemporary Church reflects the ways and organizations of this world more than the
Metamorphosis of the Church and Our Mindsets
Metamorphosis is the process that a caterpillar goes through in the cocoon where it enters as a worm and leaves a beautiful butterfly. The Greek word that is the root of this word "metamorphosis" is the word translated "transformed" in Romans 12:2:
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.
A caterpillar is a worm that crawls along the earth, conforming to all of the contours of the earth, but a butterfly soars above the earth. This is the transformation that is needed in us, and as it is specifically stated in this verse, the transformation must take place in our minds by the renewing.
Our minds have what are called "mindsets." A mindset is the setting of our mind so that when a word is spoken, we form a certain, definite impression. For example, when the word "Church" is stated, many have a very definite impression of it. For most of us, the Church is in its caterpillar state—the worm that is still conformed to this world. However, that mindset is about to be changed and renewed. Those who see prophetically already see the Church differently. She is about to become a very Heavenly creature, and those who are still looking for her crawling along the ground may miss her as she soars by overhead.
Metamorphosis requires going into a cocoon, which is very confining. Even after the transformation has taken place, the cocoon is very hard to break out of. In fact, breaking out of the cocoon is often the greatest struggle a butterfly will ever go through. (from www.elijahlist.com).
VISION of the STEEL MILL
-by Mitt Jeffords.
"Who shall stand at his appearing?..."
"I found myself in the middle of a steel mill, and all around me were
the sights and the sounds of one would expect to see and hear in a
steel mill that was in full production. I saw fiery sparks every where I
looked, and the sound of "shhhhh"; the sound that hot iron metal is
dipped in water to be cooled. The only thing missing was the mill
workers; for there was not one man to be found anywhere.
I then noticed that not far from me was a molten mass just laying on
the floor; and it had no shape or form to it. The outside of this mass
appeared burnt black and crackly, appearing just like the lava that I
have seen in pictures from the volcanoes in Hawaii. Though the outside
of this mass appeared cool and hard, I could tell that the inside was
still molten hot. I was studying this molten mass when all of sudden it
started taking on a form; it was a simple upright form that was about
4 feet high and 2 feet across; other than be upright, it had no other
characteristics to it. The outside of this mass still appeared as black
and crackly as lava. I was amazed because though I saw this mass
taking shape before my eyes, I could not visibly see who was doing it.
For about 15 minutes I had been trying to figure out what this form
was before me when all of sudden, starting at the top, all of the
burnt outside pieces began to fall off this figure. It was not until the
bottom pieces fell away before I could what this form was. It was
the figure of a man who was bent over at the waist, with head straight
down towards the floor, his arms were running parallel to his legs,
and he appeared to be made out of sterling silver.
I hardly had time to consider what this new form was before I could
discern that this figure was about ready for another. I then observed
as this figure changed from sterling silver to liquid silver. once it
became liquid, this figure then stood completely upright. After this
figure stood upright, it then hardened again; this time the figure
appeared as the most clear sparkling crystal that I have ever seen.
I do not know how I perceived this, but I knew that this new man was
completely filled with all humility and boldness, having all confidence
and faith in God.
It was then that I woke up from my dream. When I opened my eyes,
there standing at the foot of my bed was this very figure of a man
that I had seen in my dream. He leaned towards me and said, "I
stand corrected"; and then he disappeared. Immediately the Spirit
of the Lord spoke to me that which is written in Malachi, "Who shall
continue in the day of his coming? Who may abide in the day of his
coming? For he is like a refiners fire and a fuller's soap; and he
shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver so that they may present
before the Lord an offering in righteousness". I then shook at the
reality of what the Lord has shown me; for many, many are looking
for the coming of the Lord, but who is he who has gone through the
fire of the Lord's corrections?
I then asked the Lord, "Who does this man represent, Lord. Is it
me?". And the Lord then answered and said, "The man that you
saw in your vision, he is your inner man; your heart, your mind, and
your soul. The inner man is he which no man has power to correct
or to change of himself.
The man who attempts to correct himself, he is the man who does
so that he might be found pleasing and acceptable in the sight of
men, as well as in his own eyes. He who loves me, he it is who
humbles his heart before me, presenting himself before me, asking
for me to correct him. I correct all those whom I love because they
desire to for me to change them into my own image", says the Lord.
"When I correct you, I change things in you; for I do that which is
impossible for any man to do...."
"I have asked you to seek for the truth. I have asked you to believe
and to trust me when I said unto you that you do not yet know the
truth. There are many things that you do not yet comprehend
because you have not yet asked to understand them. If you ask
diligently and if you will focus your eyes on me, and not on your
own self, your own emotions, your own reasoning, your own vision,
or on your circumstances, then I will show you the truth. If you will
seek my goodness, in all that comes upon you, then I will reveal
myself unto you.
Do not think it strange nor be dismayed at the fiery trials which
confront you. Remember, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, for
just as I was with them, so also am I always with you. Look for me
in the fire, for you are not alone. Believe on my words, and look for
the good that I desire to bring forth in all that you go through.
Remember that which is written, "Happy is the man whom the Lord corrects".
I AM; I Am a consuming fire. I desire to baptize you with my fire. I
am that fire. I am that fire that you must pass through to return to
paradise, the
appear on earth. But who shall stand when I appear except those
who have been corrected? Are you ready for me?" says the Lord.
What kind of person will have revival? (Wang Ming Dao, spiritual leader in
Born at the turn of the century, Wang Ming Dao was
Wang was the genuine article. While his official church counterpart, Bishop Ding, was mysteriously protected during the Cultural Revolution, Wang spent those years in prison in solitary confinement. Finally released in 1980, his steadfast faith during 23 years of imprisonment inspired millions of Chinese Christians.
For Wang, revival could only come upon those who knew that walking the way of Christ would be hard, requiring courage, determination and sacrifice. During a visit, I quizzed him on his prison experience. “I will probably never be put in jail like you, so how can your faith have any impact on mine?”
He replied by asking me a series of questions: “When you go back home, how many books do you have to read this coming month? How many letters to write, people to see, sermons to preach?”
Then he stopped and said, “You need to build yourself a cell. When I was put in jail, I was devastated. I was an evangelist. I wanted to hold crusades all over
“But I had no Bible, no pulpit, no audience, no pen and paper. I could do nothing. Nothing except get to know God. And for 20 years, that was the greatest relationship I have ever known.”
His parting advice was, “I was pushed into a cell, but you will have to push yourself into one. Simplify your life, so you have time to know God.” For him, the absolute requirement is to go at a “walking pace,” slowing down, stilling yourself enough to commune properly with God.
Revival can only come to those who make room for God.